Thursday, May 23, 2019
Classic 45c Notes
* Female by nature, not by law ar supposed to be obedientruled by men in that locations manyaffair unnatural rough what Antigone is doing. * This chat up is ab bulge out gender as well as * Ismene = elevated wo composition * Women should be silent and Ismene voices that * Women should be sensible, should be ruled by men * Greek audience at the time is supposed to hate Antigone * Creon he fates to control himself as voicing the opinions of the gods Antigone also says that shes contriveing for the divineand that complicates things * Creon stands for the city He aligns his authority with the authority of the gods * He doesnt think of himself of vent against the gods * He has taken over and summoned the people and asked them how he rules.. how does he rule? Notice how he similars public speaking When the city is suffering. when the city is in trouble, you shouldnt be silent * The city is at this point in a cordial of danger that Creon does not collect yet. He exit see it late r on. if the city is suffering he wants the people to speak up and take action. hes not guggleing about Antigone of course. but shes doing incisively that. Loyalty is to the take Not to an other(a) hu universe being * And yet at the end of the crook, to whom does he march loyalty HIS SON * These be his values and he does not abide by his values * It is not in a federal agency family vs. bow. it is family vs. Creon bow. this is the state that Creon is organizing.. why does this state corroborate to fall? Not state in general. keep that in mind * He wants us to see the proclamation coming up is in harmony.. hes inviting us to see the proclamation Eteocles will be buried in his sculpt while Polyneices will not be buried. he is not to be mourned.. Creon uses the future ( Eteocles SHALL BE BURIED) * Antigone uses the past * Another thing we detect is the cruelty of the king ( you shall watch him chewed up )something that we see rot, devoured, we see the brass, he doesnt belo ng with the living . or the deadwhat happens when the body be pursues food for the animals * The stem that were supposed to watch someone rot, take delight in it. * Someone is going to violate the proclamation, we dont know who is the criminalwe atomic number 18 looking for the identity of the mortal who has violated the law. what is the crime It looks almost miraculous, someone sprinkled dust over the body and buried it without leaving any mark.. or tracesas if the body was visited from above * Chorus wonders if its the gods doingsand Creon loses it when the Chorus says that * Heres Creon is arrogant, how can a man know what the gods want? * Both characters act in a way that they think the gods want them to do. * Creon thinks hes doing all this to please the gods Creon cannot count that Antigone did the burial. She is his niece and a woman O Notice that hes interrogating and asking for the truth unspoiled like Oedipus * Nature is assisting Antigone. ature participates in the eventsmimicking what Antigone was gonna do with her give hands.. * The dust risingshe was about to finish the ritual but then someone removed the dust off the body the countenance time she visited the body * Why does Antigone abide by the laws of the gods? They are there everlastingly. * Human laws like everything human, are subject to change * Antigone is basically saying Creons slimy cause once someone comes after you to rule, things will change * Antigones demise and Creons demise * Both will have terrible ends Creon thinks that he has supreme power over her, and that power is to kill her. according to the proclamation, whoever they will be stoned to death in public,fate given(p) to her by man. gender roles is very important * Antigone tries to weaken his powers by put down his laws. saying that his laws are not strong as the gods cause they were there foreverwhereas his laws are only in effect in his reign. that is one way * Second way is saying that I know I will die. even if you are not the one putting me to death, I will die anyways.. by saying that, she is robbing away of his power. ssentially Creon is only a guy rope killing herbut her death is just gonna come to us. death is part of the universewhat makes a difference is that we die naturally or someone is killing us. * And creons reaction to antigones words is that hes being lectured by a woman * Creons the man, so therefore he needs to teach this subordinate woman how to behave. * He seems to think that whatever he believes is what the gods and how their people want. identifies their wishes with what they think others wishes also * Ismene comes out, shy, obedient, at the end of the renovate changes her mind and wants to die with Antigone.. he had a real change of mind namely she saw that what she wanted in the beginning of the gambling when she was called cowardly. her decision is as cowardly now namely that now she wants to be accused of the burial is that she doesnt want to be left entirel y * LONLINESS. thats another theme of the wreak * Antigone enjoys the support of the citizens but dies alone in a tomb * Creon is loathed by his citizens and is also alone when his family is no lengthy a conkhe is ruling a kingdom and no one respects himthought to be a corrupt king * Ismene doesnt want to be alone.. Creon changed his mind so that DEATH is killing herand not himso DEATH will kill Antigone and not Creon himself and that is an act of cowardice. some of the characteristics transfer to other characters * Haemon and exchange between father and son * Antigone is very much the daughter of Oedipus.. Antigone and Haemon never talksor interacts. they never will come togetherso son goes to talk to his father * What seems to matter to Creon more than anything else is obediencepower relationshipssomeone is obeying someone else. e demands obedience from his sons and his subjectsruling twain state and family in the same way. he does not several(predicate)iate the family and the state.. in EVERYTHING. small and just things and unjust things.. bigs.. that is the problem. it is NOT family vs. state Its actually family vs. tyranny / Creons state. * Is Creon disobedient? Does he violate his own principle? Yes he is disobedient to himself to his own proclamation. this is to be contrasted to Oedipuswhat Creon does when Tiresias comes forth.. he changes his mind and does something different. he actually tries to save Antigone to which he has condemned her.. Creon thinks that both his family and city as his possession * He does rule the refine at someone elses judgement in the end. by Tiresias .. CONTRADICTIONS AND INCONSISTANCIES. * He is not changing his principles. but the change in action was for in the flesh(predicate) gain Had he saved in Antigone, its doubtful for him to change his ruling if she even lived. * Unmarried women are put to death in spousal relationship gown.. marrying dead kind of a ritual and so Antigones addressing the tomb as the bridal c hamber.. shes having sex with Death, thats her maintain from now on.The judgment is that DUE BRIDAL CHAMBERalready an emphasis on DEATH, not Haemon * To die if she so wishes or live. how can she live? SHE CANNOT LIVE. she does NOT wish to die. Creon wants a clean conscience. he makes it sound like whether Antigone dies or lives, it is up to her or the gods, he has zip fastener to do with it.. * Antigone put in the tomb, locked inside, left there to die. Polynices and he is not in his tombnotice the unnatural of thingsa living individual taken into tomb. not dead yeta corpse is left outside left to rot * Rituals are important the gods will not listen to the chorus cause of Creons past * protecting, shielding himself he wants to keep Haemon so he can stay in his throne. not for the sake of his son, its for himself * they might belong to different realms cause Creon does not see whats going on inside the cave/tomb * Haemon is embracement Antigone, and Creon is asking him to join hi s father. he would be saying bye to Antigone and joining the father, and also joining the political succession of his father and no make out. so what does he dohe attempts to kill the father with his steels but failsand cannot touch the father. o far away and even the attempt fails,so the father is still the king and Haemon .. he no longer belongs to anyone. disowns his father. he does not belong with death yet. he leans on the sword (phallic symbol) and kills himself. FULFILLMENT of marriage .. sexual union with Antigone. sword is the phallic that enters himblood is of the woman.. once blood starts coming out, blood drops fall on her ashen cheeks, break of hymen. Antigone has never been touched by anybody. Haemons body receives the wound * Eurydices kills herself with a knife and Creon is alone Political situation in france in the play * Think about nazi, jews, money, greed, later on before she dies (ring) * Who is the hero? Who is the villain? This makes it harder for us to pin point who is who. * Antigones stubborn = French resistance * A curing of emphasis on childhood, beauty, purity * Many people who read anouilhs play doesnt like her * she goes back and forth a lot * METATHEATER beyond the theater, outside the theater, something that goes beyond it * watching a play any kind of comment about the play, about whats going onsecond look at whats going on. Prologue is a character that tells us what is going to happen * Chorus tends to delay, more of a commentary on the action itself similar function to the prologue in this play * Prologue is commenting on the roles of the characters, basically introducing us to the main actors, he is talking about the situation.. * Page 4 Prologue gives us that insight into Creons soul sensitive man, someone who doubts his political authority, something very important and different from the Sophocles one * Characters are full of self doubt, is a second level situationlooking at what Im doing and figuring out what Im doin g.. Function of metatheater? The effect? * Conveys a comprehend of inevitability as if the characters cannot be anything other than what they arethey have been given roles.. assigning the roles and they are going to enact the roles and theres no escaping that * The idea that theater and maybe spiritedness in a totalitarian regime is more like a playif you live in a state where you can die anytime, your life wont matter much, might as well go out and have fun.. ets just do what we have to do and get it done get the job done ( what Creon says a lot) and move ontruth of life lies elsewhere.. characters talk about the truth a lot here.. Antigone is kind of like that, but the truth she longs for is an illusion and doesnt exist and all that she has in her life is what exists, nothing beyond that Prologue. is just like the Greek gods, a kind of fate. Scene between antigone and nurse carry doesnt exist in the original. have Tiresias but not here its the nurse..We are given a first insigh t of Antigone. shes surfacelious, not sleeping, shes outgod knows where she is Nurse thinks shes having a boyfriendyet shes about to be betrothed to Haemonaristocratic women should not behave this way. theres all this back and forth between them The Nurse is perhaps.. IS the example of pure love and care in the play, theres nothing selfish, bastardised about her. shes all about selfless giving to Antigone, cares about her, loves herpolitical outsider, has no role, shes a servant. nothing to gain from the system.. o you might say thats what is achieved, introducing kindness and proficientness into a world where motives are very much fluid, neither Creon or Antigone are good or bad, they are deluded. Nurse is not full of Illusionshe loves Antigone Antigone Her famous word is saying NO.. no is a word of a rebel. She says yes to the Nurseaffirming a bunch of things to the Nurse even though its false. we have a bunch of yeses right after the other. Affirming things to the Nurse, denyi ng things to everyone elseWHY? Nurse is someone she trusts, not a political authority.. rusts her and not an opposition to her as she is to everyone else, even her sister One of the things we noticed is that the relationship of Ismene and Antigone and how they are different in here than in Sophocles Ismene still the same in which she is opposite of Antigone, follows rules, obedient She understands where Creons coming from, but theres some other stuff too One of them is the BEAUTY contest. Antigone is physically unattractive and Ismene is physically attractive, and theres a jealousy thing between the twain sisters. Haemon is in between.Antigone steps in and uses Ismenes stuff to attract Haemon STRESSES Nazis term of BEAUTY blonde, blue eyes, and not any way dark skin and stuff Ismene is the resemblance of beauty= German Nazis Antigone= French resistance STRENGTH & WEAKNESS Antigone .. not as beautiful as Ismene evidently Antigones love for dirt and mud. has a lot to do with her upb ringing, was told to do things in a certain order, she was told to be clean, not dirty. charge surface clean of mud, cover up the imperfections, not let physical ugliness show. Same applies to strength Person who says no? erson who says yes? Antigone in this play is IN LOVE WITH LIFEshe loved life when she was humble, but as she grew up, she realized that the world is authentically corrupt so now she doesnt really care about dying and she doesnt others to touch herdoes that mean Antigone is in love with death? NO, not exactly, she is tired of living.. a very girlish innocent Antigone and now that she is an adult, she doesnt want the world that she sees in hershe js doesnt want to live IN THIS WAYrejecting REGIMEGerman occupation of France, resisting THAT kind of life Childhood= paradise. or example Antigone just like in Sophocles play buries her brother twice 1st time she buries her brother= just the sprinkling of the earth.. are you sure it wasnt an animal that did it? animal metaphors . THE SPADElittle childhood spaderusty also.. we know that this spade belongs to Polynices children are associated with purity, innocence, all these ideas that the Nurse resembles spade= rusting.. playfulness, innocence, lack of care is gone .. it doesnt exist. uses this to bury the brother second time, Antigone did it with her bare handsAntigone is very much behaving like an animal when she is arrested Creon thinks it might have been an animal the first time She behaves like an animal Why would a girl be like an animal? Whats the association with the animal that ends up being a woman Why bring up animals here? Antigone is very much an adolescent, someone who hasnt grown up.. her using the spade is a sign of someone clinging to childhood, innocence. the animal means she doesnt want to enter society Nurse gives her little pet namesall of them have to do with birds. alls her dove/sparrow/turtle dove.. so thats another case in the play where Antigone is thought of as a bird, as a non human, term of endearment used by the birdall of them comparing Antigone to a non-human and then we have Creon inveterate that later on.. all of these things resemble Antigone as not belonging to society . that and she doesnt put make upnothing artificial onsign of clinging to childhood. rejection of artificiality, shes clean pure, naked.. clings to childhood cause everyone else is an adult * Both Jonas and Antigone are under Creons rule Jonas is a guy that says YESdoesnt rebel in any way.. Antigone is the rebel * How does the guards behave. his desire to be on the rulers good sidepromotes himself a lotsaying he does his job well. Creon and Jonas are fixated on doing well & being efficient * Creon is very in favor of taking orders and put to deathJonas is his subject * Efficiency. every failure was followed by with justifications just in case the king wants to kill youhis greed to get more money * ego promotion, beautifulness, efficiency, desire to be on the rulers good side.. nd those are the values that Creon likes and thats what Jonas displays * We know who did it and now we go to the brush between Antigone and Creon * Creons obsession with duty. he sees his job as a duty that needs to be executed almost mechanically. Creon has been given the role so he needs to play that role as best as he canits all over the play. so a few examples * Creon says that Thebes needs a king with no fussIsmenes a sensible person, Antigones a irrational person * Creon is the guy that says yes * Antigones a person that says no Creon is caring about just DOING THE JOB, doesnt matter about how its donenot that instead guyjust DO THE JOB * By doing that, Jonas and Creon is alike * Creon is the lover of CLEANLINESSAntigone is the one that likes to get her hands dirtymud. Ismene is the clean make up etc. make up. Antigone is the natural, and Ismene is not.. * Creon is a practical guyhygiene * **The world is empty of meaning.. Haemon and Creon are talkingHaemon wants som eone to look up to, to have values. Creon says that we are alone and the world is empty and youve looked up to your father too long * values are what make the world work. ut in the play, if youre given an order, just go execute itif you want to live and value life, given a childbed execute that task * next keeping quietis what Ismene shows in both plays. * Creon here does not believe in the gods in this play. he thinks the gods are him in this playabsence of the divine completely. gods are actually being ridiculed * Creon be practicaldont waste time. get married have kids live a happy life and then die * One of the THEMEs NEGATIVITYfact that she says no all the time. * Antigone thinks shes the best thing in a corrupt worldshe will only love a Haemon that is like her
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